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Subject: re: [OM] Street shooting with the 24/2.8
From: Garth Wood <garth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:58:28 -0600
At 08:47 PM 10/15/2000 -0500, Dirk Wright wrote:
>>Is there any consensus on the ethics of this kind of street photography?
>>After all, it is pretty much "right in your face" and I am wondering if
>>the photographer is intruding into the subject's personal space over
>>which the subject could have a valid objection? 
>>
>>John Hudson
>
>My personal opinion is that going out in public means your image is
>available for capture, and that you should just grin and bear it.
>
>Legally, I think it's a different story.


Depends where you are.  In most Commonwealth countries (or more accurately, 
countries which derive their legal tradition from English Common Law), if it's 
in public, TRULY in public, you can photograph it.  Period.  People have tried 
to argue in a variety of contexts that they have some "right" to images of 
their selves in public, but in general, Canadian courts (as just one example) 
haven't bought that argument for any but already-famous individuals, who can 
reasonably expect to make some monetary gain from their personal image.  
Everybody else can go pound sand, since their images aren't normally considered 
of monetary value.

I've had dipwads actually approach me in public, stating that, because there 
was a possibility that their image might have been captured by me, I owed them 
money.  I have told them, politely but firmly, to get lost or face my lawyer.

The only time you should back down is when you're threatened with physical 
violence and there are no witnesses to ameliorate the jackass' behaviour.  
That's happened to me precisely once, and only because I wasn't using my head 
at the time.

Garth


 
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